Sunday Feb 23, 2025

EP03: Pōhala Botanicals Part 3

Nature has a plan of its own. Are we willing to listen?

In this last part of their conversation, host Abby Starr and Ke’oni Hanalei explore the deep relationship between wellness, nature, and self-awareness. Running is more than movement for Ke’oni. It is meditation, a way to connect with breath and presence. Foraging is not just gathering. It is a conversation with the plants, asking for consent and honoring the exchange. What shifts when we see the natural world as an active participant rather than a resource to control?

The episode also challenges the idea of possession and how attachment fuels destruction. Ke’oni shares insights from the ferns, including a message from Neke, the fern of charisma, which they believe will shape 2025. What if true influence starts with looking inward?

Abby and Ke’oni’s conversation invites reflection on how we engage with nature, our past, and ourselves. It is a reminder to move through life with more presence, gratitude, and respect for the world around us.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 Introduction

01:23 Running as Meditation

03:15 Experiencing Nature in Hawaii

03:57 Respecting Nature and Plant Medicine

05:01 Ceremony and Plant Potency

06:08 Lessons from Nature and Plants

07:01 Listening to the Natural World

08:48 The Influence of Charisma in 2025

10:06 Looking Inward for Influence

12:00 The Concept of Possession

13:31 Balancing Possession and Sentimentality